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This guy says pseudo-myopia can be improved, but not true myopia
But I'm going to throw cold water all over you and point out that the Bates method has not been scientifically proven to prevent or reverse true myopia. Pseudo-myopia is caused by excessive accommodation of the ciliary muscles while true myopia is characterized by an abnormally long eyeball. Theoretically, relaxation would work to reverse pseudo-myopia by relaxing the chronically tense ciliary muscles. How this would help with true myopia is debatable.
http://sunflower.singnet.com.sg/~hanwen/bkreview.htm
The above is an excerpt from the books he reviewed. Some say even true myopia can be improved, others say only the pseudo kind can be and that all vision training programs focus on relaxation of ciliary muscles. At this point I just want any improvement I can get and from what I read, pseudomyopia can be more than a couple diopters in some cases. I have already improved a bit, perhaps as much as a diopter. Getting weaker glasses, especially for the computer has greatly deduced my accomodative strain. I really hope to improve to -4 or less and get 20/300 or better as my ultimate goal 
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7/18/2005, 6:32 am
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Re: This guy says pseudo-myopia can be improved, but not true myopia
http://www.i-see.org/prevent_myopia.html
long article about "functional" or pseudo myopia that doesnt involve lengthening of the eye. I also read that cycolopic refraction does NOT always show pseudomyopia. It "paralizes" the ciliary muscles but they remain "locked" in accomodative state. Natural vision improvement appearently works by training you to relax ciliary muscles. Here is the link to her example again:
http://members.aol.com/myopiaprev/improvin.htm
I have been doing the same as she has. I am supprised her minimum clear focal point is like 7cm! Mines 13cm so this rules in some presbyopia as well as pseudomyopia. She did lose a little ability to see from near(minimum near point) but gained alot more maximum near point. Lasik wont be the answer for me if pseudomyopia is what I suspect I may have. She improved 1.25 diopters. Depending how much I have, I could improve 2, maybe even 3 of the -5 diopters I am! I would be so happy to get to 20/200 uncorrected oneday 
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7/18/2005, 8:36 am
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Re: This guy says pseudo-myopia can be improved, but not true myopia
I guess true myopia would be hard to improve since your habits don't really matter all that much. But most of your myopia would be considered pseudomyopia because you were 20/30 or even better before you ever put glasses on, right? I guess that means you could improve all the way to 20/30  
Well maybe not, but 20/300 or better shouldn't be difficult to achieve.
Just like for me, 20/10 wouldn't be that hard because I used to be 20/10.
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Re: This guy says pseudo-myopia can be improved, but not true myopia
correct, however I also read that your eyeball gets longer in advanced myopia. I dont see how I can make it shorter but I can still relax my clinary muscles which is responsable for the pseudo. One lady improved 1.25 diopters but couldnt improve anymore, period. I am not as concerned about improving to 20/30 as im concerned about my eyes getting worse, worse, worse till I need cokebottles! I want to stop my eyes worsening as much as I want to improve
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Re: This guy says pseudo-myopia can be improved, but not true myopia
"The problem is none of the research shows that it works consistently, except
in pseudomyopia."
Then I could have prevented pseudomyopia and avoided the unnessesary strain on my eyes and even if I I couldnt prevent myopia, I could have slowed it down. Had I known, I would have used plus lenses for reading to ease the strain of close work and slow down myopia progression and avoid more pseudomyopia.
""Overrefraction" means a refraction "over" contact lenses. Ideally, the
result should be zero."
I would be able to accomodate a small amount of overcorrection. Youd either need to initially undercorrect me with contacts or cycoplegize me. Another option is just keep giving me plus lenses till I start to experience a myopic blur. If I can still see whatever my BCVA is with a +.75 lense than a +1 lense starts to make things a tiny bit blurry then the pescription I need should be weaker by .75 diopters.
"Why would you want blurry distance vision?
to help resolve pseudomyopia. If I want pseudomyopia to go away, I have to give a chance for my ciliary musles to relax so the lense can stop accomodating when it shouldnt. Next time I go to the optometrist, I am getting a pescription based on my cycoplegic refraction.
I wonder if my pseudomyopia is the cause of my accomodative dysfunction. Since im in constant accomodation, I have little accomodation left. I can see fine from near without correction but the more correction I get, the more blurry things from near become. If it isnt pseudomyopia responsable for my poor accomodation, then I may just have early presbyopia
". If you get a refraction of -475 it should
mean that -450 was blurry and -500 wasn't more legible."
I did the is one or is two better test and just chose the best. However my manifast refraction is lower now than it was 8 months ago because some pseudomyopia has been resolved. I see blurry from near with my manifast refraction pescription.
"Pseudomyopia is more common in the young, because it's easier for them to
accommodate. On average, myopes get better all on their own between ages 30
and 50."
this explains why alot of older people are farsighted. They may have been latant hyperopes or their lenses changed and they now are farsighted. I see tons of them in readers or bifocals
"Normally that indicates that the two prescriptions were done at different
times. In my office, people who need -400 contacts usually do just fine with
glasses of -425. Glasses with -400 are slightly blurry, and glasses
with -450 are no better than -425."
I have some contact samples home with me and I made sure to try them at the same time.
I have a photocopy of the snellen eyechart. I need -5 glasses for my BCVA but I can achieve the same with -4 contacts! I have a pair of -4.25 glasses too and my sample of -3.25 contacts are very nearly as good as those glasses. How do you know someone needs -4 contacts if he sees fine with -4.25 glasses? What if he can see fine with a lower contact pescription like is in my case and the case of my friends?
"I don't know why your results have been so variable. I would guess it's
instrument myopia, a tendency to show more myopia with an instrument up in
your face."
if were talking the autorefractor then yes that thing "overcorrected" me but a manual refraction is my objective results of "one or two is better"
"Again, I can't speak for "some guy somewhere." I only know what happens when
I refract, and with those differences, most doctors would feel something is
wrong."
How often do you get a refraction that doesnt add up? Such as someone needing -5 glasses but can see just fine with -4 contacts or someone seeing fine with -3 contacts but needs -3.75 glasses? Alot of my friends are like that.
"most
young people have at least a half-diopter of it."
this explains why most people improve anywhere from -.5 diopters to -2 diopters with eye exercises. They are resolving their pseudomyopia. I am going to have to bug my parents to get me another eye exam asap and get a cycoplegic refraction
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Re: This guy says pseudo-myopia can be improved, but not true myopia
I read that the rate of improvement is 3/4 diopters per year or 1/4 every 4 months. This explain my 1/2 diopter improvement since I started exercising March 2005 by undercorrecting me which is equivalenet to a plus lense. Less minus is like more plus. I do need a cycoplegic refraction to see how much of my myopia is pseudo and therefore can readily be improved. Little can be done for other types of myopia involving axial or corneal.
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