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My opinion: Just because some are happy with lasik complications doesnt mean others will!


It is faulty logic to assume all happy people are the same. Whats good for the goose may not be for the gander. Different people have different standards for their vision. A complication for one person may not be a big deal for another. I have read hundreds of lasik stories and alot of the seemly positive ones by happy lasik people still report they have some sort of a problem, but that it was managable or livable. Lots of people report they have dry eyes, some consider it a minor annoyance, others a deliberating issue. There are also different levels of happiness. Some may be extremely happy with their lasik, others just a little happy. I dont read just bad lasik stories, but good ones too so I can see both sides of the issue.

Just because someone may be happy with his lasik despite some complications does *not* mean others would be. I for one would be very unhappy if I had some of the complications described by still-happy lasik patients. I am not a perfectionist, but even I have standards for my vision and optical health. I do not want any of the dry eye issues that lasik causes for everyone. Proof:

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13. Myth
Dry eyes are temporary after Laser Vision Correction.

Fact:
With Lasik, a drier eye is common after surgery and usually permanent,
although mild for most patients. PRK however causes significant less
dryness. (See our comparison chart).


I also do not want an increase in my high order aberrations. Todays lasers induce aberrations in all normal virgin corneas. Perhaps laser technology a few years in the future will be refined to the point that the average cornea ends up with *no* net increase in aberrations. Some of you will downplay aberrations stating they dont matter. If they didnt matter, why is wavefront being hyped(ironically, it *still* induces aberrations!) And why is there so much reserch linking aberrations to decreased vision, especially at night?


I *would* be happy if I was seeing thru alterego's "perfect" lasik eyes. Serebel and Ragnar's lasik went quite well too, probably well enough to make me happy still. But the great majority of the lasik stories I read sound like those people had to compromise their vision in several ways to reduce/eliminate glasses dependency. Some are *not* happy, others a little happy, some are *still* happy, but wished results would be perfect, but can *still* deal with what they got, not like they have a choice anyway.


Lasik is chance, no one can predict where you will end up. You get only one chance because lasik is irreversable. Even a good outcome does not guarantee you wont have some lingering issues and theres always the unknown in the long term. Let me illustrate a few stories and comment on them:


1. "Has." It's still there and always will be. It prevent my vision from
being "perfect," but certainly does not dimish my joy at being able to
do everything I could do with glasses or contacts, and more. It's
really sad to think that given my exact outcome on a pessimistic person
you get someone who beats themselves up daily looking at what they
don't have over what they do.

Comments: He is not picky about his vision and is just happy to rid his "crutches" and see "well" enough to function. Would *you* be happy if everything was a little blurry permanently, uncorrectable to pre-lasik crisp vision. *but* your vision is much better without correction and still functional?


2. I agree, people need to be realistic. It helps if they have a doctor
such as yours that shows them what "success" can look like. I tell
people that if they have it (after weighing all the risks) to be
prepared for it NOT to be perfect. Then if it comes out "perfect"
(whatever that means to them), great. If it doesn't, at least they were
prepared, and as in your case and mine, less than perfect is still one
they are happy about.


Comments: Thats the whole point of lasik. To be relistic and accept compromises and tradeoffs in your vision. Very few lasik results come as perfect as alterego, ragnar, serebel. The odds of a "relistic" result is high, but to expect perfecation, dont bother in the first place.

3. I came to realize something about with my hazy night vision in one eye,
that made me feel better about things. I realized that the good aspects
of my post-LASIK vision (e.g. the 20/20) I had begun to take for
granted, leaving me thinking only about the not-so-good.


The incident happened on a trip to Portland a few years ago. We went to
OMSI, the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry, one of those hands-on
science museums. They had an area related to disabilities, which
includes a model house where you could get in a wheelchair and wheel
around and see how it is to try to do all the daily tasks like cooking,
getting things out of high shelves, etc. while in a chair. They also
had a TDD machine to show how deaf people get phone calls.
Anyway, they also had several pairs of lenses that you put up to your
eyes to simulate various vision problems. There was one that simulated
cataracts, another tunnel vision, a few other things. Well, one simply
simulated 20/800 vision. That was the vision I had with my bad eye
pre-LASIK - I had forgotten how bad 20/800 was! Then I took that lens
away, and instant 20/20 - like having my LASIK again!


I realize I would not want to go back to that uncorrected vision, and
even though my vision now is not perfect, the LASIK tradeoff was worth
it FOR ME. I just want people to know there are tradeoffs even when the
surgery is a success, and there's a risk it won't be a success.


Comments: Not everyone would be happy with this outcome. Glasses can also correct 20/800 vision, just as mine do. I too am 20/800 in my worse eye, correctable with glasses. I would consider that person's lasik outcome just barely worth the tradeoff from glasses.


4. I had monovision LASIK done a month ago (12/27), and have been mostly happy
with the result, especally in medium to brightly lighted conditions. My -3,1.5
eye has been corrected to 20-20 Snellen. The other eye has always worked well
for reading.
Has anyone known of this residual result, though? In low light, or especially
while driving in the dark, I have a ghost image to the left of the primary
image. Like the main image, the ghost is in focus. As examples, if there is a
square, reflective sign ahead on a dark road, at 100 yds there is an extra half
of the sign extending from the left of the main image. It's only about 1/4 as
bright as the main image, but clear and readable. I see car taillights with a
ghost next to them, and looking at the moon and stars has the same effect.
By the way, covering my other, untreated eye, doesn't help(yes, I thought of
that). At the one-week and one-month followup exams, the docs don't know what
it is. I even simulated it for them with a PowerPoint image of a couple of
types of highway signs. It won't go away in refraction checks. They say
they'll do a cornea mapping next month if it's still there, but the flap is
perfectly in place.
The ghost image is there across the color spectrum, and shows up on a TV screen
in a dim room as well. Playing tennis under lights, I see a ball-and-a-half.
The image is more of a distracton than anything, but I can't say I'm entirely
happy with the LASIK result while it's there.
Any ideas? My pupil size in dim light was only 5 mm.
Thanks for your "insights."


Comments: He has good reason to be unhappy about the ghosting. He is mostly happy in well lit conditions. This story illustrates the fact someone can be both happy and unhappy with their lasik.
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Re: My opinion: Just because some are happy with lasik complications doesnt mean others will!


My eyesight before LASIK was about 20/900--which amounts to being legally blind. Three weeks after LASIK, I am at 20/50. I'm using artificial tears pretty regularly, but I am thrilled that I can see what I could not before. Was I expecting better? Sure! Am I satisfied? You bet!
LARRY JOACHIM Sugar Land, Texas


LASIK was a disappointment, a let-down. The patient's vision is not nearly as good as it was with glasses, and the patient has dry eyes. But he's satisfied. This is a classic example of a satisfied LASIK patient.


This is why 90% are satisfied with lasik. Talk about cognitive dissonance! They are fooled into thinking they have to settle for compromised vision after lasik and are "supposed" to be happy with it. They arent fooling me or anyone who is informed about flawed, dangerous lasik. The best vision you can have is by sticking with glasses.
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Re: My opinion: Just because some are happy with lasik complications doesnt mean others will!


"They arent fooling me or anyone who is informed about flawed, dangerous lasik. The best vision you can have is by sticking with glasses."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

As far as I can tell, that is all you wrote, the rest was copy and paste.

Can you describe/explain 'cognitive dissonance' without looking it up???

I doubt it.

Why do you keep posting copy and paste like it was your actual words????

You really need help.

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